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5 Lies Intactivists Told Me
The decision not to circumcise my son wasn’t one that I took lightly. It involved deep introspection and careful evaluation of the science on both sides. It also meant breaking myself away from herd mentality: both my Jewish background, which strongly encouraged me to circumcise, and my involvement in the communities of gentle parenting, which strongly encouraged me not to circumcise. Eventually, just a few months before my son was born, I decided not to circumcise him. What it boiled down to was this: I can’t justify a permanent alteration of the body of someone who can’t consent, unless there is irrefutable scientific evidence of the benefits of doing so.
That evidence exists for vaccines. It does not exist for circumcision.
But, unfortunately, as with all too many factors in “crunchy” culture, I found that “intacvitist” communities on the internet were positively overflowing with misinformation and pseudoscience. Here are the five most ridiculous lies and statements I encountered during my misadventures with intactivism:
1. “Circumcision of newborn boys is just as bad as female genital mutilation, or worse.”
What a way to insult survivors of FGM! There are different forms of femalegenital mutilation, but they all share several traits in common: they are absolutely condemned by science, they cause severe and irrevocable damage to sexual function and urogenital health, and they have no medical benefits whatsoever. Circumcision, on the other hand, has the intended goal of promoting human health. Girls who are mutilated are often strapped down so hard that they break limbs trying to escape, while elders cut off their labia or clitorises with sharp and rusty razors. They often bleed to death or die of infection. If you think a baby boy snipped in a clean American hospital is a victim on the same level, you need a fast and serious reality check.
2. “Circumcision is a modern invention. Circumcision in ancient times didn’t even involve removing skin. That’s why Michelangelo’s ‘David’ and paintings of baby Jesus show foreskins.”
If we assume that Renaissance artwork can be counted on as historically accurate, it would follow that unicorns must be real and that people had habit of standing around near objects that were symbolically appropriate to every occasion. “David” and historical paintings of Jesus show foreskin because Renaissance artists used non-circumcised models and because it was considered more aesthetically pleasing at the time. Circumcision is absolutely ancient: there is artistic and written documentation of it as far back as the fifth century BCE in ancient Egypt, and is specifically commanded and described in the Torah, which was written during roughly the same time period. Rewriting history to fit an intactivist agenda doesn’t help anyone.
3. “Babies die from circumcision every single day in the U.S.”
Bull. Death from circumcision is extraordinarily rare, estimated at about 1 in500,000 to 1 in 1,000,000. Your baby’s chances of dying of circumcision are slim to none, yet it’s a common intactivist tactic to make up bogus statistics. Some that I’ve heard include, “Your baby has a 1 in 50 chance of dying of circumcision”—really?—and “A baby dies from complications of circumcision every 10 minutes.” Nope, not at all. Sorry, guys, but you can’t make up statistics just to sound scary.
4. “Circumcision destroys sexual function. Men who are circumcised have 80% less sensation than men who are not circumcised.”
Just how do they think that was measured, I wonder? All evidence to date actually shows that circumcision has essentially no impact on sexual function. None. There was a massive review in 2010 that investigated several studies and couldn’t find evidence of any sexual dysfunction caused by circumcision. Circumcision didn’t affect rates of premature ejaculation, erectile dysfunction, difficulty with orgasm, sexual desire, or pain during sex. There’s no evidence that circumcised men suffer sexually because of it.
5. “Babies almost never need to be circumcised for medical reasons.”
This intactivist lie is often followed with the claim that a baby is more likely to die from circumcision than to medically need a circumcision. And, again, that’s just not true. Medically necessary circumcisions aren’t uncommon at all. One of my relatives needed one shortly after birth during surgery to correct a birth defect known as hypospadias. A friend of mine who is now an adult was circumcised as a child to make it easier, safer, and cleaner to use his catheter (he is incontinent). One of my friends’ sons needed a circumcision at three because of severe recurrent yeast infections. To call these people “mutilated” or “ruined,” or to erase the reality of their experiences, is hurtful—not to mention inaccurate.
At the end of the day, I don’t regret my decision not to circumcise my son—and I hope that he doesn’t regret it, either. But, unlike other intactivists, I don’t feel a need to bury my head into pseudoscience and lies in order to justify the decision I made regarding my child’s body, and I don’t feel a need to shame or attack men who have been circumcised or parents who choose to do it. As long as the science says that there’s not enough evidence to fully support or condemn circumcision, I think it’s about time we reach an agreement: let’s stop arguing and obsessing over baby penises. You take care of your kids and I’ll take care of mine.
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Oh my, "at the end of the day", you have a repressed guilty conscience and it shows too.
ReplyDeleteThere's too much defensiveness for sure... and the outrage against intactivists, none against the circumcision industry... it's a knot I'm not going to untie, she'll figure it out.
DeleteThe American Academy of Pediatrics betrayed our nation and sacrificed our sons to an ancient superstition. American doctors have no plans to stop injuring baby boys. They don't tell parents that 80% of the world's men live healthy lives with normal intact bodies. More American parents are following the advice of the European medical community, which has condemned American doctors for circumcising baby boys. The Royal Dutch Medical Association reports: "International physicians protest against American Academy of Pediatrics’ policy on infant male circumcision. Circumcision conflicts with children’s rights and doctors’ oath and can have serious long-term consequences, state an international group of 38 physicians from 16 European countries in Pediatrics today." http://knmg.artsennet.nl/Nieuws/Overzicht-nieuws/Nieuwsbericht/129608/International-physicians-protest-against-American-Academy-of-Pediatrics-policy-on-infant-male-circumcision.htm
ReplyDeleteParents should know the unique, highly-specialized structure and function of the foreskin. It only takes two minutes to learn it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFV4Fy7i7g
Great article. Of course the moron in the period pants has to leave a comment--he's one of the biggest culprits of lying, exaggerating and shaming parents as well as circumcised men. He doesn't like it that most people don't care what other people do with their sons' penises.
ReplyDeleteDon't I know it! I have screenshots of him asking women for penis pictures of their husband and children!
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ReplyDelete“Circumcision of newborn boys is just as bad as female genital mutilation, or worse.”
ReplyDeleteIf you think female genital mutilation is bad, because what you know of it comes from seeing girls in third world countries get cut in horrible conditions you should see what they do to the boys in those same filthy huts by those same third world cutters. Or does that not matter because they are boys?
http://www.ulwaluko.co.za/Photos.html
“Circumcision is a modern invention. Circumcision in ancient times didn’t even involve removing skin. That’s why Michelangelo’s ‘David’ and paintings of baby Jesus show foreskins.”
A better and more complete argument, instead of using the statue of David would be to get you to research the difference between Brit Millah and Brit Periah. Brit Millah only removed the tip of the foreskin (and was still awful) but because of Jews employing foreskin restoration, it was decided around 140AD to extend the cut and make restoration much more difficult. Brit Periah is what we recognize as circumcision of males today. They are very different procedures.
The Jewish Philosopher, Moses Maimonodies talks about this, and how Periah damages sexual function and sensation. He saw that diminished state of pleasure as necessary to keep both men and women focused on their faith, rather than the pleasures of their body.
“Babies die from circumcision every single day in the U.S.”
Considering circumcision is unnecessary, isn't even ONE too many? I cannot prove the higher numbers, (I don't think anyone can.) but on my own Facebook page I have personally learned of 5 different babies that have died from infant circumcision in just the last 6 months, and those are merely the ones I know through my friends network.
“Circumcision destroys sexual function. Men who are circumcised have 80% less sensation than men who are not circumcised.”
As someone who has restored my foreskin I would have to say the 80% number is very subjective, and it comes from the foreskin restoration community, which is a group that has (despite its size of over 100,000 American men) been totally ignored by anyone studying the science of sexual pleasure. I, myself have experienced a restoration of pleasure far in excess of just 80%. Most men who restore their foreskins report the same as I do. If you really want to know what sexual difference it makes, you cannot just study men cut as adults,and only report on how they feel immediately after circumcision. Look to people who have restored the functions of their foreskin, where it has been missing from birth. Then a truer picture emerges.
I hate putting an objective number on a subjective experience.
We simply don't have enough studies that have examined this. We definitely need a LOT more.
“Babies almost never need to be circumcised for medical reasons.”
Hypospadias repair is not medically necessary surgery unless the flow of urine is blocked, or there is pain during urination. Otherwise it is a cosmetic surgery just like circumcision. There is a growing movement of Hypospadias survivors petitioning doctors to prevent them from performing these surgeries until the boy becomes an adult.
Even when hypospadias repair is necessary (which is rare) preservation of the foreskin depends solely on the outlook of the surgeon. Only in The USA do they remove the foreskin to repair hypospadias. Even accounting for hypospadias repair, random infections, etcetera, Finland tracked all of their infant and childhood circumcisions. Only 1 in 16,667 males needed a circumcision for a legitimate medical reason. We no more need to cut anything off of a penis to stop yeast infections than we need to cut anything off of a vagina. The solution is hygiene and to make sure the caregivers know what to do to clean a penis, and more importantly, what NOT to do to clean a penis.
Using LESS soap on the genitals, and NEVER retracting the foreskin of a child to clean can actually prevent more issues than circumcision ever could.
Comparing FGM with male circumcision has historically been met with great hostility. This is due, in large part, to a lack of knowledge about FGM in general, particularly the 4 types as classified by the World Health Organization (WHO), and how common each type is.
ReplyDeleteIn January of 2015, Sir James Munby of the British Royal Court of Justice, sitting at Leeds, ruled in a landmark decision regarding a case about FGM on a minor in which he did some comparing/ contrasting of FGM with male circumcision.
In the court documents which can be read at the link below, Sir James Munby states:
"Without wishing in any way to qualify what I have just said in relation to FGM in general, there is a particular issue in relation to FGM WHO Type IV which cannot be shirked. And that brings me to the topic of male circumcision."
"It can readily be seen that although FGM of WHO Types I, II and III are all very much more invasive than male circumcision,1 at least some forms of Type IV, for example, pricking, piercing and incising, are on any view much less invasive than male circumcision."
"In my judgment, any form of FGM constitutes “significant harm” within the meaning of sections 31 and 100. What then of male circumcision?"
"...male circumcision does involve harm, or the risk of harm. Given the comparison between what is involved in male circumcision and FGM WHO Type IV, to dispute that the more invasive procedure involves the significant harm involved in the less invasive procedure would seem almost irrational. In my judgment, if FGM Type IV amounts to significant harm, as in my judgment it does, then the same must be so of male circumcision."
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/BandG_2_.pdf
The following are academic sources Sir James Munby cited in the court documents:
Price, C. (1997). Male circumcision: an ethical and legal affront. Bulletin of medical ethics, 128, 13-19.
full text available here: http://www.cirp.org/library/legal/price/
From the University of Oxford:
Earp, B. D. (2014). Female genital mutilation (FGM) and male circumcision: Should there be a separate ethical discourse?.
full text available here: http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/02/female-genital-mutilation-and-male-circumcision-time-to-confront-the-double-standard/
and here: http://philpapers.org/rec/EARFGM
and here: https://www.academia.edu/8817976/Female_genital_mutilation_FGM_and_male_circumcision_Should_there_be_a_separate_ethical_discourse
http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/02/female-genital-mutilation-and-male-circumcision-time-to-confront-the-double-standard/
Just because someone made a claim doesn't mean it's accurate. This is yet more intactivist misdirection.
DeleteType IV of fgm is extremely rare. Most fgm is type I-III. Not to mention the difference is that even the Type IV is STILL harmful, condemned by every reputable medical agency, and provides ZERO health benefits.
Male circumcision DOES provide documented medical benefits, and have been referenced in numerous scientific studies. There is loads of science to back up the medical procedure that is circumcision, and documented benefits.
So to compare even IV fgm to make circumcision is patently ridiculous. One has zero benefits, as evidenced by science, and only ever causes harm, and the other has documented health benefits, as proven by science, and does not cause harm unless something goes wrong (which is extremely rare, but technically possible, as with any sort of procedure or preventative medicine).
Sensory receptors : http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ca.22501/abstract;jsessionid=DA83424FC408B7A4D4010CB9B1FCA554.f03t03
ReplyDeletehttp://www.littleimages.org/blog/unicorn-insurance-circumcision-and-utis/
ReplyDeleteThe simple fact is that in absence of true medical need you have NO right to permanently surgically alter the body of someone else who can't consent, let alone without adequate pain relief. Doesn't even matter which facts you want to cherry pick and debate. So no, I won't reach an agreement with you that everything is a-ok no matter what people do to their children. And btw, please do explain to me how it is that the U.S. and Israel keep Viagra in production...
ReplyDelete"However, these results should be evaluated in light of the low quality of the existing evidence and the significant heterogeneity across the various studies. Well-designed and prospective studies are required for a further understanding of this topic" - the review you cited.
ReplyDeletehttp://mosaicscience.com/story/troubled-history-foreskin
ReplyDeleteA nice but long article explaining several things, including that because Jesus Christ sacrificed himself on the Cross, Christians don't have to submit themselves to God through among other things circumcision, and so the didn't for nearly two thousand years. It was only brought back in the 1800s not for health reasons, but to curb sexual desires. Then people began touting the procedure as a cure for many things such as blindness and epilepsy, almost all of which everyone knows is false. In fact the same arguments were made 50 years ago to circumcise baby girls (which if you didn't know means you HAVEN'T fully researched circumcision). Even the so called studies "proving" circumcision reduces the risk of STIs were done in Africa where the epidemiological profile is much different than in the Western World. In fact, studies on circumcision in the UK FAILED to find a significant reduction in STI rates. Furthermore, if circumcision really does reduce your risk of HIV 60%, why are HIV rates in Africa still so high? Why does the USA have much higher rates of HIV, erectile dysfunction, meateal stenosis, and other diseases then Europe where circumcision is rare? Do your own research on the topic, see how the argument for circumcision doesn't hold water.
Actually you are not accurate either. Genital cutting is genital cutting.....gender makes no difference. Even the AAP admits that circumcision complications (even deaths...) are not well documented.......
ReplyDeleteBeragam khasiat yang dimiliki vimax telah diketahui oleh orang sejak jaman dahulu. Bahkan sudah bukan lagi rahasia umum bahwa vimax sangat berkhasiat untuk kesehatan seksual. Berikut ini berbagai uraian tentang khasiat vimax yang bisa anda rasakan.
ReplyDelete1. Memperbesar dan memperpanjang alat vital pria
2. Memperkuat otot-otot organ vital pria.
3. Menambah stamina & energi sehingga tidak mudah capek.
4. Menambah massa otot jadi membesar.
5. Meningkatkan libido & gairah seks.
6. Menghindari ejakulasi dini
7. Memuaskan pasangan wanita anda
vimax asli
yeah, who cares how low the death rate is...
ReplyDeleteI just stumbled upon your blog and have been reading through some of your posts. Sorry to see that you seem to have been found and attacked by some crazy Men's Rights Activists that want to make it seem like FGM and circumcision are the same thing. They're not. But you're never going to convince the crazies of anything else. Hope you aren't getting too much hate mail. Hang in there.
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